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Monday, October 12, 2009

The Truth.

If you want the truth to stand clear before you, never be for or against. The struggle between "for" and "against" is the minds worst disease. ~Sent ts'an, c. 700 C. E.

It seems that we often bounce back and forth between these two extremes, which kind of feed off each other. Just the emotionally whiplash of flipping between these extremes creates mental and physical exhaustion/suffering. It's reminds me of taking a winding path up hills then down them and how much suffering and exhaustion that creates for the body and mind. Whereas walking straight down the moderate, balanced middle is not only more direct but it requires less strain and thus less suffering is endured on the trek.

The more I meditate/contemplate upon the teaching of the Middle-Way I find it to be one of the most important building blocks to the foundation of Dharma practice.
This reminds me of the old adage, which I paraphrase as, "The truth is usually found somewhere in the middle between the two extremes." The Middle-Path in my view is one of compromise, which is in part what attracted me to the Dharma. I am a person who likes to take the best ideas of both sides and come to a common ground.

~Peace to all beings~

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Adam said...

Would you mind traveling to D.C, standing on the steps of the Captial Building, and shouting this post through a megaphone?

Extremeism is currently ripping this country apart, and sadly I see no end in sight.

Kamachari said...

But then one has to be for or against some things. Sometimes the middle-ground just doesn't cut it.

Take paedophilia for example. Only a deranged sexual pervert would be for it, but any normal person would be against it. You just can't take the middle-ground on that one.

They call him James Ure said...

I wish I could talk some sense into those politicians Adam. I've been trying for some time now lol.


Indeed. That would violate the precepts and go against the Noble Eight-fold Path. Any action that violates the essence of the precepts is not to be encouraged.

Kamachari said...

Yes indeedy, but Noble eightfold path or no Noble eightfold path, some issues demand a yes or no answer. Some issues are either right or wrong with no middle-ground. Y'know what I mean?

They call him James Ure said...


True. I guess I was just speaking from a Buddhist perspective but you're right that some things are just wrong regardless of religion or no-religion.

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Peace to humanity!

Amaro said...

A "common ground" based on what? On your confusion? The very act of "choosing" or "settling" prevents the truth. The Buddhist notion of truth is relevant to the present-moment experience, and if you don't practice meditation (but only discuss through concepts) you won't ever get it. Similarly, the Precepts and the Eightfold Noble Path are not "moral guidelines" but are meant to orient one's meditation practice.

Amaro said...

The "Middle Way" has nothing to do with middle ground or common ground. Truth has nothing to do with consensus and compromise. Buddhism does not teach one to be a "nice person" who tries to please all parties or take an average of all opinions. Remember, the Eightfold Path is the Fourth Noble Truth, and you cannot talk about it outside of all The Four Noble Truths.

They call him James Ure said...

Thanks for the lecture Amaro. I guess you have it all figured out then but how do you know I DON'T meditate?

I don't mind people sharing their differing views here but don't lecture us like we are children. No one wants to lectured to. If Buddhism doesn't teach one to be a "nice person" then why teach compassion and loving-kindness?

I took your comments as harsh speech, which certainly isn't in keeping with the Eightfold Path you spoke of. Again, I don't mind disagreements but you don't have to be harsh while doing it.

If you know the truth so well and the rest of us are idiots then why aren't you enlightened? Clearly you are not and neither am I but we both know that one aspect of enlightenment is sharing opinions in a compassionate way. I didn't feel that compassionate concern for others feelings when you shared your thoughts.

It's important for all of us (myself included) to learn from others but no one should have to be talked down to.

Please think next time before you speak and ask yourself if you can say what you have to say in a nicer, more compassionate way. No one is going to listen to you if you keep speaking harshly while sharing your views.

Amaro said...

OK, let's do hugging meditation together.

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